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Re: OT: elves and jinn (was Re: [...] THE WORLD OF THE JINN)

From:Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>
Date:Saturday, October 18, 2003, 23:43
--- Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>

> That's one of the things that infuriates me > about "Assembly-Line Fantasy" such > as one endures in the Dragonlance books, etc.
Without knowing exáctly what Jorg means, I can't make judgements there. Though I must say that I find the usage strange. John reminds us that these "Elves" were once part of Ill Bethisad; and I don't think I ever really found out why they should be called Elves there either! In any event, I'd like to hear how they're comming along. I do agree with you on the mass market fantasy. Dreck! So much of it.
> The Elves in the LOTR are so > much more than human in many respects it can > come as a shock to realize that > a mere mortal, Beren, marries one of their > greatest, Luthien, daughter of the > Maiar (Nature Spirit - subgoddess) Melian, and > the Elven King Elu Thingol.
Agree. I read somewhere that Elves could be looked on as ideal humans; sort of like Adam - perfect in all his prefall glory.
> Occasionally one finds an author who at least > attempts to understand, and they > also are pleasures to read - Ursula Le Guin > springs to mind, also Gene Wolfe, and a few > others.
I found a good one that explores the questions of what it means to be Elf: Dennis McKiernan's "Eye of the Hunter". With all its problems, M. does do quite a bit of looking into the Elvish mindset. He is clearly influenced by T (right down to the lovable (but entirely too cute) halflings), and there is some attempt at conlanging as well. I think it largely comes down to slightly altered Greek, but anyway! Too preachy at moments, but on the whole a fairly worthy read just to see what makes the Elves tick. Padraic. ===== - Nos côsez yen fin xristianós et trancouil - Côsez-el a Ddon! -- Ill Bethisad -- <> Come visit The World! -- <> .