Re: note on a side project
|From:||David Peterson <digitalscream@...>|
|Date:||Monday, September 2, 2002, 20:17|
Wow! What an interesting English-based pidgin!
Pidgins and Creoles are one of my main linguistics-based interests,
though I've never tried to create one myself, and this one--just when you
think you'd seen everything done in a pidgin, you really hit on something
new--especially with the verbs. I've seen serial verbs before, and seen them
in pidgins, but yours really take the cake, and yet seem quite plausible.
<<solution : compounds
so instead of saying |i| for eat, you say |fui|
a peculiarity is that nouns are reduplicated, whilst
verbs aren't. so food is |iifu| /'?i?ifu/
once a context has been established you can use
uncompounded forms of a word, so once it's clear we're
talking about |iifu| we can refer to it as |fu|>>
Very interesting solution, and it seems to work. One question: Why are
all nouns reduplicated? I've seen it for plural and for other things, but
<<i haven't decided how to form plurals yet, but i'm
considering using either |me| ( many ) or |lo| ( lot )
as in |me mi| |mi lo|, we>>
Can I suggest "all", which would either surface as |a| or |aw|? So you
get |mia| or |miaw|? That's always been my favorite plural.
<<mi go go mi ge lilihaw fuku iifu
me go go me get livelivehause foodcook eateatfood
i will go home to cook food>>
Depending on what kind of English this pidgin was based on, may I suggest
|na| or |a| for the future? We do it in English: "I'm'a go eat" and "You'na
go eat now?"
Last, let me say that if you want to preserve CV, you can always tack on
a vowel to words, so "talk" can become |toko| or |toku| instead of |to|.
<<nothing's frantically regularised at the moment, and
i'm considering using it as a test bed for various
word formations etc, rather than developing it as a
And, of course, if it's going to be a pidgin, it doesn't need to be
regularized--a creole does.
I've always been interested in plurals. See, I ran this pidgin
experiment last year, and I'm running it again this year on a much larger
scale, and a plural never really developed; never really was needed. I'll
have to see what they all do this time around. I'll try to invent contexts
where they'll have to use a plural, and can't use a specific number.
Anyway, I know I had one more thing to say, but I forgot what that was...
If I remember, I'll re-mail. Good work!
"You can celebrate anything you want..."