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Re: Caucasian phonologies and orthographies

From:Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>
Date:Sunday, March 7, 2004, 7:14
From: "John Quijada" <jq_ithkuil@...>

> I'm honored that you should mention Alan S. Kaye; he was my linguistics > professor 20 years ago at Cal State Fullerton. He and I co-wrote the > article on the Fremen language for the Dune Encyclopedia (Berkeley Books, > 1984). I didn't know he had a book on comparative phonology - I'll have
to
> find it. As for Ithkuil, the site is at > http://home.inreach.com/sl2120/Ithkuil.
Haven't read Dune yet, but my brother has all the books somewhere.... I saw the phonology for Ithkuil just now, and it did make me think of North Caucasian (also Indo-Aryan). The script made me think of Star Wars and Star Trek. So I'm not alone in having a Speedtalk-like project (Tech is supposed to be spoken by humanoids with exceptional intellect), where you say as much as you can in as little time as possible. Maybe that's how the Abkhazians and Circassians were thinking with Northwest Caucasian, or the Berbers with Tamazight.... The little bit of Tech you've seen is pretty ugly. A lot of ejectives and "guttural" consonants, yes, but you may have noticed the lack of vowels -- schwas are inserted epenthetically, and even the short vowels came from earlier long vowels and diphthongs. (There will be long vowels... maybe.) While the vowels were reduced, the consonant inventory was nearly tripled because of resulting palatization of Ci > Cj, and labiovelarization of Cu > Cw. This came from a philosophy of "compression", a feature that appears in Quebequois French (if I'm not mistaken), where they say something like _j'n'taime pas_ for "I don't love you". In other words, you get the opposite of 'Olelo Hawai'i.

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