Re: Quantity shift (was: Re: Native grammatical terms)

Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:

> At 19:31 21.11.2003, Isidora Zamora wrote:
> >>Yes.  Syllable-final vowels and vowels before a single
> >>short word-final consonant are long if they are stressed.
> >
> >This would seem to say that the length of a vowel is conditioned by context
> >and is not contrastive.  Is that correct?
>
> Yes, though some (you here, Andreas?) would want
> to argue that in modern Swedish it is vowel length
> that is contrastive while consonant length is
> automatic.
I'm here, and would indeed want to argue that. But since we've rehashed this
topic a couple of times, I ask the curious to refer to the archives.

> IMNSHO both models involve some
> contextual and morphological complications,
> e.g. why does _hård_ have a long vowel but _hårt_
> a short one (since it is underlying _hård+t_.)
Not that it falsifies the point that there are complications to either
interpretation, but in my 'lect, those both get a long vowel; [ho:d`] and
[ho:t`], respectively.

                                                      Andreas

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