Re: Requesting some challenging sentences
From: | Tim May <butsuri@...> |
Date: | Sunday, October 30, 2005, 16:40 |
Gary Shannon wrote at 2005-10-29 18:59:50 (-0700)
> --- caotope <johnvertical@...> wrote:
>
> > Okay, this is somewhat off the topic (with respect to this
> > thread, not the list), but - I think I missed your point on the
> > complement of "to". Why exactly can a verb not be its own
> > complement? I'd think the copula was pretty much *defined* as the
> > binary operator for which a = b and b = a are equal (or as the
> > verb that *is* its own complement). (Unless you want to get
> > philosophical on how you perhaps cannot include "equality" in the
> > defition of the copula.)
>
> Actually, I had thought of the Soaloa word "to" as
> meaning "has the attribute" (as I translated in a few
> early examples on the page) so that we could say
> "Apple has the attribute red" but not "Red has the
> attribute apple." No equality is meant by this
> meaning. A different word altogether would be needed
> to say "An apple is a fruit" because what we'd really
> be saying is "apple is a member of the class fruit"
> which is also not equality. In Soaloa, two things
> cannot be equal unless they are instances of the same
> thing, and then they can only be equal if they are not
> distinguished. Thus we could say "an electron is
> (equals) an electron" since they are all the same when
> not distinguished by location, but we could not say
> "This electron is (equlas) thyat electron since we are
> implying something that distinguishes them.
Certainly, most copular predicates are not equational. But what about
"Hesperus is Phosphorus"?
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