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Re: USAGE: Thorn vs Eth

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Thursday, July 11, 2002, 2:56
Quoting Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>:

> Kendra wrote: > > I'm curious as to how many natural languages have th and dh, as I heard > that > > not many do. Anyone? :) > > Modern Greek for one. Castilian Spanish has /T/ and [D] as an allophone > of /d/. Icelandic has /T/ and /D/. I can't think of any others > off-head. Those are fairly rare.
I guess depending on your political affiliation*, Scots has both as well. Some other languages that have a phonemic /T/: Karuk, Walapai, Havasupai, Yavapai, Mojave, Atsugewi, Wintu, Central Sierra Miwok, Santa Clara Tewa, Arapaho, Mahican, Shawnee, Kickapoo, Fox, Sauk, Iowa-Oto, Dhegiha, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Halkomelem, Pentlatch, the Saanich dialect of the Northern Straits, the Sliammon dialect of Comox, and some dialects of Tuscarora and Chasta Costa. (These are just the North American ones I could find.) Since the difference between [T] and [D] is a matter of VOT, and VOT ranges widely across languages, many of the above languages are likely to have phonetic [D]s as well. *(Is Scots a language separate from English? Certainly the SNP would have us think so.) ===================================================================== Thomas Wier "...koruphàs hetéras hetére:isi prosápto:n / Dept. of Linguistics mú:tho:n mè: teléein atrapòn mían..." University of Chicago "To join together diverse peaks of thought / 1010 E. 59th Street and not complete one road that has no turn" Chicago, IL 60637 Empedocles, _On Nature_, on speculative thinkers


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