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Re: USAGE: Thorn vs Eth

From:Nihil Sum <nihilsum@...>
Date:Saturday, July 13, 2002, 3:42
I done hear tell from Tristan:

>How do you get that there should be one in 'eighteen'? English doesn't >do long consonants much these days and the spelling in no way indicates >the presence of an extra /-t-/. (For the record, I have never said, nor >do I recall saying, an extra -t- in them.)
You may not say it this way, but damn near everyone I know (since I started paying attention) says "thirt-teen", "fourt-teen" and "eight-teen". The dictionary at indicates these are acceptable as alternate pronunciations. Many dialects do not do this. I've heard "thir-teen" "four-teen" and "eigh-teen", even "eigh-deen" etc. These tend to stand out for me when I hear them on TV etc. What I meant by that there should be one in "eighteen" is that since "eight" DOES end in a t, it makes more sense that this t might be retained (in some dialects!) before "teen" ... unlike "three" or "four". The extra t in "thirteen" and "fourteen" comes from nowhere -- makes no sense at all. But since that's what I keep hearing around here, that's what I'll keep saying. NS (types in west coast Canadian dialect) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:


Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>