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Re: USAGE: Thorn vs Eth

From:Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
Date:Saturday, July 13, 2002, 3:55
On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 13:42, Nihil Sum wrote:
> I done hear tell from Tristan: > > >How do you get that there should be one in 'eighteen'? English doesn't > >do long consonants much these days and the spelling in no way indicates > >the presence of an extra /-t-/. (For the record, I have never said, nor > >do I recall saying, an extra -t- in them.) > > You may not say it this way, but damn near everyone I know (since I started > paying attention) says "thirt-teen", "fourt-teen" and "eight-teen". The > dictionary at indicates these are acceptable as alternate > pronunciations.
I never meant it was wrong, just that you suggested (or I inferred from what you typed) it ought to have two /t/s in it and a pronunciation without was wrong.
> What I meant by that there should be one in "eighteen" is that since "eight" > DOES end in a t, it makes more sense that this t might be retained (in some > dialects!) before "teen" ... unlike "three" or "four". > The extra t in "thirteen" and "fourteen" comes from nowhere -- makes no > sense at all. But since that's what I keep hearing around here, that's what > I'll keep saying.
Curious: Do you ever hear thirt-ty, fourt-ty, eight-ty etc? Tristan.