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Re: USAGE: Thorn vs Eth

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Saturday, July 13, 2002, 2:07
From: "Nik Taylor" <fortytwo@...>
>Nihil Sum wrote: >> You hear "fourteen" and "eighteen" as either /fo:rti:n/ , /eiti:n/ or as >> /fortti:n/ , /eitti:n/. > >I never hear them with geminated /t/'s. I was unaware that gemination >existed at all in English except in obvious compounds like "book-keeper" >or "pen-knife", but even in those it's not that unusual to hear single >consonants.
Well, I know I have geminate /t/ in them. It is easier to tell as it does not turn into [4] as ordinary intervocalic /t/ does (compare "fourteen" with "sorting", "eighteen" with "Nadine"?) Of course, it really is just as much a compound as "book-keeper" or "pen-knife"... both "eight" and "teen" are words in common use.
>And the spelling "eighteen" suggests that the single /t/ pronunciation >is very old.
Well, we also have "eighth" with one <t> standing for /tT/ (at least in my speech). Google seems to have plenty enough hits for "eightteen" (and, dismayingly, "eightth"), but whether these are pronunciation spellings or typos is probably not easy to tell. *Muke! --


Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>