Re: R: Re: German Dialectology was: Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology

Take a look at this site, if you can find something...

http://www.cas.usf.edu/german/dialects/

Luca



> Hi!
>
> Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...> writes:
> > A question I guess mainly directed to Henrik:
> >
> > Is there anywhere where I can get a mapping of soundchanges
> > (? differences?) from Standard High German to Austrian?
>
> Hmm, I don't know a source from my head, but I see something in front
> of me internal eye that I once read where sound changes for southern
> German dialects where shown.  But I forgot where it was/is.  Because
> I'm not used to Austrian too much, I think anything I could produce
> from my head would be non-complete, overly generalised, and wrong.
>
>
> > On a broader scale I think it would be interesting to look at a
> > comparative chart of the differences between the German dialects.
>
> It was something like that what I saw for southern German dialects
> including Bavarian, but unfortunately, I've forgotten the source. :-(
>
>
> > cant remember the url now...) and am curious as to whether any of the
> > dialects have besides Bayrisch has as standardised an orthography as
> > that;
>
> No, because it is different from village to village.  I actually don't
> know what Bavarian orthography is based on, since I think there is
> also not only one dialect.
>
>
> > I've seen Saechsisch written dialectally too, but didn't look very
> > standardised...at any rate does anyone write in their dialect like they
> > did in Luxembourg before the introduction of the standardised
> > Letzebuergesch orthography?
>
> Yes, no standards.
>
> E.g. the dialect my grandmother spoke (unfortunately moribund now I
> would think: I'm one of the few of my generation that still understand
> it, but I cannot speak it), is very different from what is spoken 5km
> away.
>
> My grandma: Kuier mol wuier Platt.
>             [kUIj6 mO:l vUIj6 plat]
>
> 5km away:   Küör mol wedder Platt.
>             [ky96 mO:l wEd6 plat]
>
> `Speak Lower German (the name of the language: Platt) again!'
>
> (In X-Sampa.  And yes, [y96] is truely the triphthong(?)...)
>
> The orthography is kind of made up and not really stable.  Others
> would do it differently.
>
> It's a pity that this language goes the sad way of many others.  It
> has/(had) an extraordinary amount of diphthongs.
>
> **Henrik