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Amen (Re: Pater Noster (purely linguistically))

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Sunday, December 5, 2004, 22:37
On Saturday, December 4, 2004, at 08:28 , Steg Belsky wrote:[snip]
> In the time of the Masoretes, who invented vowel diacritics for Hebrew > texts, "amen" seems to have been pronounced something like [O'men] - > one or both of the vowels might be long, though. This was around the > 800's CE. > > It may well have been pronounced something like [a'men] back around the > non-year 0, though :) .
The Greek makes it quite clear that the 2nd vowel is long. Whether the 1st vowel is long or short is impossible to tell. The word was accented on the second syllable - strictly a pitch accent in Greek at that time but possibly already changing to stress in some areas. Thus: [a'me:n] or [a:'me:n] in Greek of the 1st cent CE. Ray =============================================== =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]