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Re: How to mark Tech ejectives and syllabics using Arabic script

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Monday, January 21, 2002, 7:55
From: "David Peterson" <DigitalScream@...>

> In a message dated 01/19/02 12:26:42 PM, dawier@YAHOO.COM writes: > > << So I welcome comments as to whether this is in character and tradition
> > Arabic script. >> > > Since no one else said anything, I thought I might as well. Your idea
> rather inventive. :) What's more, it kind of makes sense: the glottal
> symbol being associated with ejectives, and the maddah whose effect is to > lengthen the /a/ vowel (I don't know if that was its initial purpose) is
> to syllabify nasals and liquids. Excellent. Bravo! ~:D I don't think I > would have ever thought of that.
The idea came from the need to make do with a limited set of glyphs provided by most fonts (Tahoma and Arial Unicode do offer all the extended characters found in Urdu, Sindhi, Uyghur, old Malay, Kurdish, Ottoman Turkish and dialectal Arabic). I also know of only one natlang that's ever been written in Arabic script that has ejectives: Hausa, and maybe some North Caucasian languages; I don't remember the conventions for those. But the hamzeh thing was there, and it's used with other consonants (over hah in Pashto for /dz/ and over alif, waw and yeh in Kazakh for certain vowel sounds). Incidentally, Tech has both ejective and "emphatic" consonants, depending on whether the word comes straight from Proto-Semitic or Proto-Indo-European or a contemporary Semitic language like Hebrew, Arabic or Syriac where "emphatic" means pharyngealized/backed. The maddeh for syllabics... well that's more arbitrary. I thought of alef maddeh as being a double alef: the first to indicate a glottal stop or initial vowel, and the second for the long a. This would only be used for initial syllabic consonants (especially those frequent initial syllabic nasals). ~Danny~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free address at