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Re: CHAT: pacifism

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Saturday, December 20, 2003, 6:31
In a message dated 2003:12:19 09:04:10 AM, jcowan@REUTERSHEALTH.COM writes:

>Tristan McLeay scripsit: > >> Does raising one's voice count as violence? incivil language? or only >> physical violence? > >For me personally, physical violence or the credible threat thereof. Raising >one's hand, even if it isn't lowered, counts unless one is known to be >the type to make such gestures and never follow up. Likewise, raising one's >voice does not count unless, again, one is known to be the type who raises
ones
>voice only as a prelude to physical violence.
The problem with the Golden Rule is that one person's poison is another's meat-&-potatoes ;) Everything is "situational" as _Shit Happens_... one can only "Lock-&-Load 'n' Rock-&-Roll with the Punches"... "Go with the Flow" (don't go up shit creek when the shit hits the fan... one's spine is stronger than one's guts & face... the best Gung Fu & Art of War is "nasty" Hit-&-Run...strategically runnin' away to fight "dirty" another, much better advantageous da y. Sun Tzu - Taoist author of _Art of War_ - espouses a "provisional pacifism" --- "Don't fuck with me & I won't fuck with you.").
>Which is not to say that I have never used violence, rather that I don't >justify or defend it.
It's just a fact o' Life. As Carl Jung said so excellently: "I rather be whole than good."
> (I once shoplifted something, but I don't defend theft, either.)
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