Re: CHAT: pacifism

Quoting Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>:

> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 jcowan@REUTERSHEALTH.COM wrote:
>
> > Andreas Johansson scripsit:
> >
> > > Can't think of any well-known example, but I've run across pacifists who
> do
> > > not only condemn wars of conquest, preemptive attacks, armed
> humanitarian
> > > interventions and the like, but also any form of violent self-defense.
> >
> > Pretty close to my position (presumably I count as "well-known" around
> here).
> > I don't fully condemn violent self-defense, but I wouldn't feel justified
> in
> > using it myself, either.
>
> Does raising one's voice count as violence? incivil language? or only
> physical violence?
Can't speak for John, but I was chiefly thinking of self-defense on the state
level; violent resistance to armed invasion, essentially.

                                                             Andreas