Re: transcription questions
| From: | Joseph Fatula <fatula3@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, December 13, 2002, 2:42 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "lblissett" <blissett@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: transcription questions
> I have two sounds I'm having trouble transcribing:
>
> "hk". This is a sound made by exhaling and quickly stopping the flow
of
> air by pressing the rear of the tongue to the roof of the mouth. It isn't
> voiced and it isn't a clicking sound, and I'm not sure how to transcribe
it.
>
> "tth". This is a lot like [T], but has a kind of hissing / daffy-duck
> quality to it.
>
> Any ideas?
(Using X-SAMPA below)
Hmm... Reading over your descriptions, I get exactly the first one (and know
why you'd use "hk" for it), and I think I understand the second.
On first guess, I'd use /M\_0_h k/. It seems to me that it is an unvoiced
approximant (with aspiration) at the velar place of articulation, followed
by an unvoiced stop. If you want, you could mark it all /M\_0_h k_}/ to
indicate that the stop has no audible release.
Trying it again now, I find that such a sound has three major components:
breathing out, a brief fricativization, and a stop. So maybe the best way
to represent it would be simply /hxk/.
I'm finding that you can easily vary how much fricativity there is, so it
could range from /hk/ to /hxk/. And you could easily change the place of
articulation, such that you get:
/hfp/
/hst/
/hCc/
/hxk/
/hXQ/
etc.
The fricative is either brief or nonexistent, depending greatly on what
you're trying to do. This all assuming that I understand the sound you're
making.
As for "tth", it seems to be just /T/ with a lot of hissing and force. I
don't believe IPA indicates such features for general transcription. I do
know that they have a set of symbols for recording "disordered" speech,
mainly distinguishing smaller or non-phonemic characteristics, like this
hissing. I have an IPA handbook around somewhere which I think has those
listed. I'll see if I can find out some more.
Hope this is the sort of thing you're looking for.
Joe Fatula
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