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Diphthongs (was Re: 3 q's - X-Sampa)

From:M. Astrand <ysimiss@...>
Date:Saturday, February 7, 2004, 21:22
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:34:33 -0700 >From: Muke Tever <hotblack@...> >Subject: Re: 3 q's - X-Sampa > > >E fésto Trebor Jung <treborjung@...>: >> Merhaba! >> >> How do you write diphthongs - as (e.g.) /ai/ or /aj/? > >What you put between the phonemic slashes // depends on how the phonemic >system of the language is represented: you could put /ai/ or /aj/ >depending on how that offglide patterns. For the phonetic brackets you'd >put down whatever the actual sound is, which might be [j] or [I_^] (i.e., >non-syllabic [I]) or whatnot.
Are there any natural languages that make the difference, having both /aj/ and /ai/? Or /aw/ and /au/? I'm asking because I have a problem with my conlang's ortography which I haven't been able to solve. I have been spelling differently diphthongs in words like _kai_ "winter" and _loj_ "finger" although I can't hear any difference between the final sounds, and the ortography is supposed to be rabidly phonemic. Every time I try to change them either to _kai_ and _loi_ or _kaj_ and _loj_, however, the language resists - it says that there's a difference, one's plural should be /kai.e/ (or /kaj.e/) and the other's / I now think it would probably make most sense to say that both indeed end in the same sound and that their plurals are simply irregular, but I was wondering if there was a way to save the i/j and u/w distictions in other words where they can't be followed by a vowel morpheme.
> *Muke! >--
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