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Re: Gender

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Monday, October 26, 1998, 0:48
On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:21:15 -0400 Baba <fikhduv@...>
writes:
>I am involved, as a therapist, with persons who're physically >intersex and others who cross gender lines in other ways. > >When I looked at language I found that a "gender neutral" pronoun >(EG "hir" etc) although intended to be such often ended up being >used as a "third gender" pronoun (IE of a person neither male or >female). So perhaps 4 pronouns are needed; male, female, neither >male or female, and "any"; the later for use with collectives, >generics, or where the gender of the individual is unkown.
That's exactly what i have in Rokbeigalmki :) There are four third-person pronouns for each singular and plural. The singular ones, for instance, are: iz = she (female) oz = he (male) uz = it (neuter) uhz = s/he (neutral) _Uz_ is used for inanimate objects, and _uhz_ is used for animate objects whose gender is unknown. It's "plural", _uhmz_, "they-neutral", is used for both multiple unknowns and for mixed male and female groups. They're also used as gender-markers on nouns. For instance, _mald_ means "a human" _uh-mald_ also means "a human", but has the neutral marker _uh-_ redundantly tacked on for some reason. _o-mald_ is "a man", and _a-mald_ is "a woman". This is irregular - it should be _*i-mald_. The linguistic-evolutionary BS ( ;) ) i came up with to explain it is that it originally was _i-mald_, but the _i-_ prefix shifted _i-_ >> _y-_ [j@] >> _ya-_ >> _a-_. _u-mald_ is some kind of neuter human, like an android i guess. -Stephen (Steg) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]