Re: Many consonants
From: | Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> |
Date: | Thursday, November 8, 2001, 7:05 |
Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:12:41 -0500
> > From: Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
> >
> > Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:
> > >Not quite. For one thing, Danish doesn't deal in retroflex consonants
> > >at all. Something like [EQn?st].
> >
> > That looks alot like _four_ consonants to me, so _Ernstsks_ ought to
>have
> > seven just like Swedish _Ernstskts_. Or am I'm missing something?
>
>If you're thinking of the /?/, that's not really a consonant. It's the
>stød, a sort of glottal gesture (glottal approximation, very creaky
>voice) that co-occurs with the end of the sonority peak of a stressed
>syllable. (And since the /n/ here tends to be half devoiced, the /?/
>should really go in the middle of the /n/!)
>
>The stød is cognate with one of the tonal accents in Swedish; it seems
>that Lithuanian has something similar, which is called broken tone
>(Brechton) there. There really ought to be an IPA diacritic for it ---
>a superscript /?/ maybe, which JCW could then put in X-SAMPA as /_?/
>--- but since there doesn't seem to be a need for it to contrast with
>a real glottal stop, it has to share that IPA symbol.
Ok. One day I ought to actually study Danish and Norwegian ...
Andreas
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