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Re: basic vocab

From:Carlos Thompson <carlos_thompson@...>
Date:Saturday, September 16, 2000, 16:23
Nik wrote:

> Roger Mills wrote: > > But one > > advantage to generating the forms first is that you avoid the
seemingly
> > natural tendency to favor particular sounds, or to accidentally
assign two
> > meanings to one form. > > That's a problem? All languages favor some sounds over another. I > prefer to let those "biases" evolve in word-making. For example, I > hadn't originally intended to make /v/ and /z/ rare, but it turned
out
> that way, as I used those sounds in few words. I tends to make the > conlang very esthetically appealing, IMO. The sounds you'll prefer
are
> the sounds you like, thus, your conlang will be full of sounds you > like. And more than one meaning to a given form mimics natural > languages, with homophones and polysemy.
For Chleweyish I used a mixed approach. I used one list (swadesh, I think) of words and randomly assigned random generated skeletons of the orthography (being quiet phonetic, it wouldn't matter), but letting empty places. This means that not all swadesh words have a final form today. I made this after I begun creating words, and later when translating, and occationally when I think on a concept that should exist on Chleweyish, I have to coin words for missing concepts. With the random generated list I can be sure most sounds I originally reserved for the language are fairly represented, still I let my bias to flavour the language and I force a few things I left out with the random generator (like complex clusters and trisyllable words). Well, it would be nice to extract some statistisc of all coined words. -- Carlos Th