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Re: Evidence for Nostratic? (was Re: Proto-Uralic?)

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 17:10
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From: "Rob Haden" <magwich78@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Evidence for Nostratic? (was Re: Proto-Uralic?)


> On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:24:22 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg=20Rhiemeier?= > <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote: > > >I don't believe in a monovocalic system at any point of PIE's prehistory. > >While there are instances of /i/ and /u/ that arose from syllabic > semivowels, > >there must have been /i/ and /u/ in pre-ablaut PIE. I also think that > these > >took part in ablaut, being diphthongized to /ai/ > /ei/ and /au/ > /eu/ > >in full grade. > > While /ai/ > /ei/ seems realistic to me, /au/ > /eu/ does not. The
problem
> is solved if you have /aya/ > /ey/ and /awa/ > /eu/. > > >One moment. Only neuters had original endingless nominatives. > >Masculine and feminine nouns had a nominative in *-s, which was > >lost in those forms that don't have it at a rather late stage, > >and I think that *-s is from a suffixed animante demonstrative *-sa. > > PIE *kerd and *genu are inanimate nouns. The reconstructed form for
'foot'
> is *pots, which I think may be erroneous. Latin has pes, pedis; Greek has > pous, podos. These point to a problem with current reconstructed PIE:
what
> was the original genitive suffix, *-es or *-os? Perhaps we can find the > answer to this question.
AFAIK, the standard reconstruction for 'foot' is 'ped-', nom. sg. 'peds'.