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Re: Dyirbal?

From:Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>
Date:Friday, November 19, 2004, 10:15
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:54, Ph. D. wrote:
> Rodlox wrote: > > two questions -- where in Austronesia is/was Dyirbal > > spoken? &, aside from Syntactic Ergativity, what other > > fun stuff does it and-or its language subfamily (its closer > > relations within the broad Austroneasian Family) have? > > *curious* > > I believe the Australian languages (the languages of the > indigenous people of Australia) are not related to the > Austronesian langauges (broadly, the languages of the > islands in Pacific Ocean).
Australian languages and Papuan languages share a common set of beginnings, from the people who shifted into the combined island continent c 60 - 40 000 years ago. Austronesian languages are derived from a proto-Austronesian language spoken in Taiwan around about 3 000 years ago. The residents must've got restless and shifted further south, until Austronesian is the world's most widely scattered stone-age era language family, with speakers spread from Madagascar to Easter Island and Hawai'i. The only place the Australian languages met the Austronesian languages was around Darwin/Arnhem Land, where there was a scattered trading trips from Indonesia; the Papuan languages met the Austronesian languages around the New Guinean coastline, and largely lost. Inland they speak Papuan languages; on the coast, particularly the north coast and islands, they speak Austronesian languages. I may be wrong; I don't doubt it; but that is what I've picked up from here and there about the Australian/Papuan/Austronesian language families.
> > (Malagasy, spoken on the island of Madagascar off the > southeastern coast of Africa, is also related to the > Austronesian languages.) > > --Ph. D.
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