Re: RFC: New CXS symbol needed.

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:01:35 -0500, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
wrote:

> Tristan Mc Leay skrev:
>> On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:43 -0500, Paul Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> The IPA have adopted their first new symbol in twelve years.
>>>
>>> http://www.sil.org/sil/news/2005/labiodental_flap.htm
>>>
>>> I propose /v`/ for the CXS representation,
>>   I propose we wait until X-Sampa has a representation for it.
> I agree.
Why? What has X-SAMPA got to do with the future of CXS? True enough, it
was the primary source of CXS symbols, but we made improvements. X-SAMPA
contained bad ideas, which CXS put right. Should we automatically adopt
X-SAMPA's idea for this symbol, regardless of whether it's good or not?
That seems antithetical.

>> v` also makes me think of a retroflex. As far as I can see, ` is only
>> used in retroflex sounds in CXS.
> I agree about this to: ` marks "retroflex", not "vaguely rhotic-like".
Apart from when it marks rhotic vowels, and apart from the accoustic and
articulatory similarity between rhotic vowels, most "r" consonants, and
retroflexes.



Paul

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