Re: USAGE: Fänyläjikyl Inglyx

In message <015801bf402a$4888eb40$ec706395@andreehome>, Roland Hoensch
<hoensch@...> writes

>F=E4nyl=E4jikyl Inglyx [Phonological English]
>=CFes, it luks ebsolutli horendys.  B=E4t, IMHO, it iz f=E4nyl=E4jikyl tu =
en
>ekstent les dhen dikxyneriz list it, b=E4t mor dhen Inglyx kyryntli d=E4z.
>
>Eni th=E4c?  Hez eniw=E4n els tra=EFd tu divajz a f=E4nyl=E4jikyl speling =
sistym for
>Inglyx?  M=EB=EFbi w=E4n dhet luks y bit betyr?  Widh en=E4dhyr skript?
>Syrilik, m=EB=EFbi?  A=EF think =C4=EF ma=EFself xel tra=EF samthing =E4n =
dhy lettyr.
>
>End tu giv en egzempyl end let pipyl bi =EBbyl tu fig=EFyr aut dhy veri=EF=
ys
>s=E4un(DZ).
This illustrates some of the problems of reforming the orthography.

It seems that for you, the vowel =E4 appears in "phOnolOgical" and also in
"bUt" and "thOUGHt", for example.  For me, these are all three different
vowels.  You also use the same vowel e in "Absolutely", "Any" and
"Example".  All these are different for me too. =20

On the other hand you have two different vowels in "EnglIsh", and
they're the same for me.  You also have different vowels in "trIED" and
"devIse", where I have the same one.

Sometimes even the structure of the word is different.  It looks to me
as if you pronounce "dictionary" with four syllables, with the third
having the same vowel as "that".  I say that word with three syllables:
/'dIkS@nrI/.  And in general it seems that your dialect lacks the
syllabic l.  Then there's the post-vocalic r which I don't pronounce at
all. =20

Problems.

>Obviously the above is biased by my own dialect of English, but
>ideally the 'official' spelling if ever such a system was implemented
>would be derived from the national dictionary.
No dictionary has the necessary international authority.  And no dialect
would ever be accepted by everyone as a universal standard.

--=20
John Fisher   john@drummond.demon.co.uk   johnf@epcc.ed.ac.uk