Re: Telona phonetics

Jonathan Knibb wrote:
>daniel andreasson skrev:
> >>>  [re-ordered]
>I must say I love the labialized velar approximant.
>It's almost exactly the voiced equivalent of the Swedish
>"sje-sound", which in my idiolect is a voiceless velar
>approximant, somewhat labialized. So there is no problem
>for me to pronounce that. Especially since I'm pretty
>good at forming the lips for the Swedish /y/. I do that
>on a regular basis. :)
>[...]
>There are other things which seem Swedish-inspired too.
>The short /Y/ being [@\] (well, that's what {u} is in Sw.),
>the /u/ tending towards [}], etc.
>[...]
>Do you know any Swedish? (I'm also thinking of how you
>were dissing it in favor of Finnish in the previous
>Gilette-mail. :)
><<<
>
>< broad grin >  Javisst!  I didn't mean to denigrate Swedish
>at all, it's one of my favourite languages - I spent a
>couple of months in Sweden two years ago.  Although I
>consciously based the lip position of Telona /w/ on Sw.
>/y/, I hadn't noticed the similarity to 'sj' at all - I'm
>delighted!  And although I've heard practically every
>fricative I know used for 'sj' at one time or another ( :P ), my
>own Swedish accent uses a sort of simultaneous [x] and [phi]
>which is probably pretty close to yours.
Well, I've got to agree that "sj" has very varied realizations. Mine is a
more or less pure [x], with some labialization before rounded vowels (before
stressed /a/ it seems to be anti-labialized, if there's a such word).

                                              Andreas

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