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Re: Telona phonetics

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Friday, February 1, 2002, 9:09
Jonathan Knibb wrote:
>daniel andreasson skrev: > >>> [re-ordered] >I must say I love the labialized velar approximant. >It's almost exactly the voiced equivalent of the Swedish >"sje-sound", which in my idiolect is a voiceless velar >approximant, somewhat labialized. So there is no problem >for me to pronounce that. Especially since I'm pretty >good at forming the lips for the Swedish /y/. I do that >on a regular basis. :) >[...] >There are other things which seem Swedish-inspired too. >The short /Y/ being [@\] (well, that's what {u} is in Sw.), >the /u/ tending towards [}], etc. >[...] >Do you know any Swedish? (I'm also thinking of how you >were dissing it in favor of Finnish in the previous >Gilette-mail. :) ><<< > >< broad grin > Javisst! I didn't mean to denigrate Swedish >at all, it's one of my favourite languages - I spent a >couple of months in Sweden two years ago. Although I >consciously based the lip position of Telona /w/ on Sw. >/y/, I hadn't noticed the similarity to 'sj' at all - I'm >delighted! And although I've heard practically every >fricative I know used for 'sj' at one time or another ( :P ), my >own Swedish accent uses a sort of simultaneous [x] and [phi] >which is probably pretty close to yours.
Well, I've got to agree that "sj" has very varied realizations. Mine is a more or less pure [x], with some labialization before rounded vowels (before stressed /a/ it seems to be anti-labialized, if there's a such word). Andreas _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: