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Re: Telona phonetics

From:Jonathan Knibb <jonathan_knibb@...>
Date:Friday, February 1, 2002, 2:05
daniel andreasson skrev:
>>> [re-ordered]
I must say I love the labialized velar approximant. It's almost exactly the voiced equivalent of the Swedish "sje-sound", which in my idiolect is a voiceless velar approximant, somewhat labialized. So there is no problem for me to pronounce that. Especially since I'm pretty good at forming the lips for the Swedish /y/. I do that on a regular basis. :) [...] There are other things which seem Swedish-inspired too. The short /Y/ being [@\] (well, that's what {u} is in Sw.), the /u/ tending towards [}], etc. [...] Do you know any Swedish? (I'm also thinking of how you were dissing it in favor of Finnish in the previous Gilette-mail. :) <<< < broad grin > Javisst! I didn't mean to denigrate Swedish at all, it's one of my favourite languages - I spent a couple of months in Sweden two years ago. Although I consciously based the lip position of Telona /w/ on Sw. /y/, I hadn't noticed the similarity to 'sj' at all - I'm delighted! And although I've heard practically every fricative I know used for 'sj' at one time or another ( :P ), my own Swedish accent uses a sort of simultaneous [x] and [phi] which is probably pretty close to yours. (I still occasionally have some fun at work, using it in 'Sjögren's syndrome' and watching my colleagues' faces as they try to work out what I'm talking about...) And again, you're absolutely right, Telona short 'y' is exactly the same sound as my Swedish short 'u' ... and I never noticed! Cool.
> The phonotactics on the other hand...
Well, with a lifetime of conlanging in front of me, I wanted Telona to have fairly simple syllable structure so I could make its daughter languages more European (way, way in the future...). The languages I wanted it to look something like on the page included Swahili, Finnish, Malay, classical Greek (romanised :) ), Latin, etc., etc. Not sure whether I've accomplished that or not! Sadly, Swedish wasn't on the list (but I'm sure it will be for any future daughter-of-Telona - you'll have to wait around a few years!).
I like the phonetics of Telona and I'm looking forward to the next posting. Post away! <<< Thank you - I'll try and do that later tonight! Jonathan. 'får ej punkteras eller brännas' (touch of thread-crossing there...)