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Re: CHAT: Glottalized consonants

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Saturday, May 15, 1999, 3:27
Lars Mathiesen wrote:

>There are other versions than the glottalic theory of Gamkrelidze and >Ivanov --- but (from what I see on the Indo-European list) there seems >to be wide agreement that the values of t-d-dh (assigned a hundred >years ago by the Neogrammarians) are not only unlikely as an actual >phonological system, they don't actually account very well for the >facts either. So something has to be put instead, but the question is >what.
The Neogrammarian system is a clear violation of linguistic universals, but of course Greenberg came after the Neogrammarians. A voiced stop implies a voiceless counterpart, so there would have to either be a four-way distinction as in Sanskrit and daughter languages (t-th-d-dh), or the three-way with ejective of Armenian (t-t'-d).
>(The active/stative thing, on the other hand, just seems to be roundly >ignored).
True. I'm not even sure how active/stative works, but from what I read I-E probably started as an active language, then became ergative, then finally nominative-accusative. (I forget what Hittite and Anatolian languages was; I think they were ergative, but I'm not sure...) Danny _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com