Re: Word Construction for a New Conlang
From: | Patrick Dunn <tb0pwd1@...> |
Date: | Thursday, July 8, 1999, 6:21 |
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ed Heil wrote:
> I'm finding myself in a state of throwing away all the beginnings of
> conlangs I've started and wanting to start over again. And I'm just
> not sure how to start, so I turn to you (pl) for help...
--schnip--
>
> I'm curious how other people work, especially people who, like me, do
> not have a really hardcore linguistics background with exposure to a
> lot of natlangs and formal descriptions thereof.
>
> Ed Heil ------------------------------- edheil@postmark.net
> "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything
> that's even _remotely_ true!" -- Homer Simpson
Actually, I rely an awful lot on my subconscious. When I need a word I
think about the concept, and just let the word arise in my mind. For
instance, I needed a word for "good", and "nehasa" came into mind. It's a
perfect word for "good" (at least in Hatasoe).
Then, after getting a few dozen of these words, I look at their phonology
and analyze it. I draw up a rough chart. I make up some more words.
Usually a few of those violate the phonology. I go back to the chart and
see *how* it's been violated (for instance, is there suddenly a voiced
/f/? An initial cons. cluster?). If the violation "makes sense" to me (I
can imagine that voiced /f/ arising, for instance) I include it. If it
doesn't, I try to figure out how I'm mispronouncing the word.
The flaw with this system, of course, is a tendancy to include only
English sounds, but since I have a real fascination with weird noises, I
don't have much trouble with that. *grins*
The strengths?
First, some sounds pop up more frequently than others. /t/ is very common
in Hatasoe, but /d/ less so. This isn't a matter of me saying, "ah, well,
/t/ will be ten times more common than /d/." It just happens.
Second, after a short while, you can stop checking the chart, because you
*know* how to pronounce the words and "wrong words" just don't pop up
anymore.
Third, it's a little easier to learn the vocabulary, because it comes from
somewhere inside your own mind, not a computer screen.
I've tried computer generated vocabulary, several times, but we hates it,
yes we does, we hates it, my preciousss! It's like -- ahem -- swimming in
a linguistic ocean with a raincoat on?
--Patrick