Re: NG-NA correlation ...
From: | Tim May <butsuri@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 0:16 |
JS Bangs wrote at 2003-10-07 13:40:15 (-0700)
> Andreas Johansson sikyal:
>
> > In the languages I know of, noun-genitive syntax seems to
> > correlate with noun- adjective, and similarly genitive-noun with
> > adjective-noun. Is this a "universal" tendency, or just an
> > artifact of the smallish sample?
>
> From what I know it's a statistical universal, but not an
> absolute. (Like the statistical universal that languages have
> exactly one rhotic :). It makes sense, because both noun-genitive
> and noun-adjective are instances of the general pattern
> head-modifier.
>
It's certainly been proposed as one, but Matthew Dryer[1] says there's
actually no statistically significant correlation between
Noun-Adjective and Verb-Object order[2].
| It is often mistakenly thought that that the order of adjective and
| noun correlates with the order of object and verb, but it is now
| known that this is not the case (see Dryer 1992). It is often
| thought that OV languages tend to be AN an that VO languages tend
| to be NA, but it turns out in fact that this is not so, that NA is
| somewhat more common than AN among both OV and VO languages. Part
| of the source of this problem is that the languages in the sample
| used by Greenburg (1963) suggested that verb-initial languages tend
| to be NA, but in fact this turns out to be an accidental property
| of the six verb-initial languages in his sample, and AN order is as
| common in verb-initial languages as it is in SVO and OV languages.
| Another source of the mistaken impression many linguists had about
| AN order in OV languages is that among the OV languages of Europe
| and Asia, AN order is much more common than NA order. This turns
| out, however, to be an idiosyncracy of Eurasia: outside of Eurasia,
| NA is clearly more common than AN among OV languages.[...]
As I think the NG-VO correlation is still accepted, this would imply
that NG-NA correlation doesn't exist. Assuming he's right, of course,
which is something I'm not in a position to judge.
[1]http://linguistics.buffalo.edu/people/faculty/dryer/dryer/dryer.htm
[2]http://linguistics.buffalo.edu/people/faculty/dryer/dryer/word.order.shopen.pdf