Nyenecye-Ja (fi: I'm back)
|From:||Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>|
|Date:||Monday, August 11, 2003, 19:55|
--- Pavel Iosad skrzypszy:
> > Or I can, if he can't. It would make a good basis
> > for your article on IB's Nyenecye-Ja! [Hint hint!]
> Hm, I think I have an idea about that. Way back in 1943, the Nenets
> raised a revolt in the Bol'shaya Zeml'a Tundra - Ngarka Ja (just west of
> the Urals), supported by some to the east, in Salyangard. Aided by the
> enemy inroads on the northern shore, they manage to fend off several
> Russian special service attacks. Since the regular army is away at war,
> the rebellious Nenets capture Pustozersk and there they hold a
> Mandalada, where they proclaim the independent Nyenecye-Ja. They are
> joined by large groups of Nenets from the Yamal regions, as well as by
> the Forest Nenets and a group of Kolva Komi. Pustozersk is renamed
> Narjan-Mar, in remembrance of the blood spilled for independence.
Good idea! We had actually renamed Narjan-Mar "Lymbdasavey Mar", but this seems
a good solution too.
> The Russians cannot spare enough forces to fight the Nenets, and are
> forced to leave them alone for a while under the condition that
> Nyenecye-Ja does not enter the war against them. After the war, they
> leave them totally alone.
Hmmm. Do you think Vissarionov would have been happy with such a solution?
Okay, he was pretty occupied with establishing his power in Estonia etc., but
would he have allowed a region that was part of Russia to split off so easily?
No problem, as soon as you come up with your map, I'll redraw mine. Mind you,
most of what I did was very much based on the situation *here* (admittedly,
with some differences). If someone comes up with a better alternative, I'll be
the first one to adopt it applaudingly.
Anyway, the main difference with my map, I believe, is that you add a small
portion of the Komi Republic to Nyenecye-Ja, and that Taymir does nót belong to
it. What would you do with Taymir Nenetsia? Add it to the United States of
If you want to change the borders with the Union of Mansiland and Khantiland
too, you should consult with Ferko first, I think.
> Nyenecye-Ja then comprises what is now the Nenets AD as far as the Kanin
> Peninsula, part of modern Komi republic up the Kolva and around Inta /
> Vorkuta, as well as large territories in the Yamal peninsula and up the
> Ob', Pur, and Taz. To the east its borders go as far as the Yenisey.
> (I'm afraid this is a major redrawal of Jan's proposals at
. I'll draw a map of
> Nyenecye-Ja, promise)
> It's capital is Narjan-Mar, with Labitnangi-Salyangard the major port on
> the Ob'. The Nenets have largely retained their traditional habitat and
> ways, except for the cities, which have only been suffering an insurge
> from the tundra in the latest 15 or so years. [...]
Excellent! You know, Russia is really too big for just one person, and I'm
ready to share it with anybody. I'm glad you want to take part of it.
(Perhaps we should take this discussion to Conculture, BTW. That's were all the
IB stuff takes place, after all)
"Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones
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