Re: Nyenecye-Ja (fi: I'm back)
|From:||Pavel Iosad <edricson@...>|
|Date:||Monday, August 11, 2003, 20:42|
> Good idea! We had actually renamed Narjan-Mar "Lymbdasavey
> Mar", but this seems a good solution too.
Glad you like it :-)
> > The Russians cannot spare enough forces to fight the Nenets, and are
> > forced to leave them alone for a while under the condition that
> > Nyenecye-Ja does not enter the war against them. After the war, they
> > leave them totally alone.
> Hmmm. Do you think Vissarionov would have been happy with
> such a solution?
Surely not, but probably he'd have too much on hand there to pay
attention to those Yurak upsrisings. After all, no-one knew there was
the oil and gas there, and the Vorkuta coal was a pain to deliver, and
thus easily substituted for something else.
> Okay, he was pretty occupied with establishing his power in
> Estonia etc., but
> would he have allowed a region that was part of Russia to
> split off so easily?
That'd be part of the fun :)
> Anyway, the main difference with my map, I believe, is that
> you add a small portion of the Komi Republic to Nyenecye-Ja,
Yes, mostly the North-East (Kolva Nenets and Vorkuta).
> and that Taymir does nót belong to
> it. What would you do with Taymir Nenetsia?
> Add it to the United States of Siberia?
Well, what is inhabited by the Nenets is part of Nyenecye-Ja (i. e. the
part of the present Taimyr AD to the west of the Yenisei). The rest
doesn't have a lot to do with the Nenets. I think it'd make good sense
to unite it with Yakutia, since the Dolgans are their closest relatives.
An independent Dolgan state is a cool idea, but I think it too crazy,
and besides I know next to nothing about THOSE places. No-one'd have let
the Dolgans control all that nickel and stuff, anyway.
> If you want to change the borders with the Union of Mansiland
> and Khantiland too, you should consult with Ferko first, I think.
I think I should, for I'd like to see Nyesyang-Ja (the Forest Nenets
country) included there.
> (Perhaps we should take this discussion to Conculture, BTW.
> That's were all the IB stuff takes place, after all)
Oh, are you cruel! Not another list!!!
OK, I've joined it, so I think we can resume the discussion there ;-)
Pavel Iosad email@example.com
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