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What did Rodlox do? (was: Tagalog & trigger idea: I'd like comments. :)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:16
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, at 07:23 , Rodlox wrote:

>>> also, I've become given to understand that a trigger doesn't simply > modify > a word (run/ran/running), but it changes the word's entire > meaning. >>> 'ukku = I, you > a 'ukku ayn = I see you > o 'ukku ayn = I fear you > u > 'ukku ayn = I seek (pursue) you > > > In reference to Philippine languages all a trigger is is an affix on the > verb that indicated what part of the sentence is *emphasized* be it the > one > who does the action, who receives it, who it's done for, where, what was > used to do it. The noun that the verb refers to is marked with an affix It > does not necessarily change the entire meaning (however, various affixes > on > a verbal root can give that root a different flavor, from what I've been > able to garner.) << > >, what was it that I did do, with the three opening letters? > *curious*
OK - given only the following information: On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 10:38 , Rodlox wrote: [snip]
> 'ukku = I, you > a 'ukku ayn = I see you > o 'ukku ayn = I fear you > u 'ukku ayn = I seek (pursue) you
The only thing that changes is _a_, _o_ and _u_. Therefore, I would deduce that _a_ = '(to) see', _o_ = '(to) fear' and _u_ = '(to) seek'. In other words that what you are doing with the three opening letters is using three different monosyllabic verbs. Of the other two words, I would consider there are two likely analyses: _ether_ (a) _'ukku_ = "', that is denotes that _I_ is the subject & _you_ the object and is probably a contracted or compound formation; _ayn_ is a particle denoting that the verb is present tense and affirmative in meaning. _or_ (b) _'ukku_ = 1st pers. + 2nd. person without distinguishing which is subject or object; _ayn_ is a particle making it clear that the 1st pers. is subject & the 2nd person is object (whereas, say, *_a 'ukku eyt_ might be "You see me" and *_a 'ukku uyk_ might be "You & I see each other"). I would be wishing that there were interlinear glosses :) Ray =============================================== =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]


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