Re: CHAT: browsers

Wesley Parish scripsit:

> Well, she's certainly not the Queen of the Channel Islands - just to throw a
> pointless factoid in - she's the Duchess of Normandy,
> the mainland Normandy is
For "Duchess" read "Duke".  Her title in the C.I. is "Our Sovereign and Duke
of Normandy, Queen Elizabeth the Second."  AFAIK that does not make Prince
Philip the Duchess of Normandy, for which he is probably profoundly grateful.

> and Jersey, Guernsey
> and the other one are the sole remaining loyalists -
Distinguish between Isles and Bailiwicks.  The Bailiwick of Jersey
contains the Isle of Jersey only, but the Bailiwick of Guernsey contains
the Isles of Guernsey, Alderney, Sark, and Herm (also Jethou, Brecqhou
and Lihou, according to the Guernsey official web site).

> secessionist of course, and has been for the last few hundred years  ;)
There's been a bit of ping-ponging: mainland Normandy broke loose from
the English crown in 1204, leaving the islands still in personal union;
Henry V of England conquered Normandy in 1415-19, but all was French again
by 1453.  France conquered the islands in 1461 and ran them directly
until 1468; in 1483, England, France, and the Pope agreed to make the
islands neutral ground.  In 1781 France tried to take the islands
but was rebuffed; the Germans conquered them, 1940-45, as a byproduct
of conquering France.

> Nor is she the Queen of Manx either - that's a state in free association,
> unless I'm mistaken.
The British monarch is Lord of Mann, and has been since 1765.  (Again,
the Queen gets a masculine title there.)  Before that, the Lordship
belonged to the Dukes of Atholl, before that to the Stanley family of
Lancashire, and before that, to the Kings and Queens of Scotland.

Lots more information at www.gov.{je,gg,im}.

--
John Cowan           http://www.ccil.org/~cowan              cowan@ccil.org
To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all.  There
are no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language
that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful.
        --_The Hobbit_

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