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Re: Basque & Katzner's Languages of the World

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, November 15, 2001, 8:57
En réponse à Roger Mills <romilly@...>:

> > I just bought R.L.(Larry) Trask's "History of Basque" an incredibly > complete > and as far as I can tell accurate work (a budget-buster, alas). Very > conservative, no wild-blue-yonder stuff, in fact he demolishes most of > everyone's speculations about the language. Apparently there is a > tapped r > (written "r") and a trilled one "rr". The odd thing to me is that they > can > contrast word-finally (I suspect it has to do with what happens when a > suffix is added, since it seems they're written "-r" in both cases, > unless > I've misread.) They also contrast medially of course, but not > initially; in > fact Basque dislikes initial r: Lat. rege- 'king' > errege. Modern > Spanish > loans excepted. > Fascinating book, TOTALLY fascinating language. >
I agree heartily! Its nightmarish verb structure, beautiful noun inflections (I like the fact that indefinite nouns don't have number distinctions, but definite nouns have, and that place nouns can add the local cases suffixes directly, but other nouns need an adjunct -ta-. And of course, I love the possibility of overdeclination that it offers!), extremely interesting syntax (I like the fact that only the last word of a noun phrase carries the inflection. Especially since despite being a SOV language, adjectives follow their head :)) . It means that very often, the head of a noun phrase is not inflected, but its following adjective is! :)) ), etc... In fact, Basque inspired me a lot when I designed Moten. Despite many differences in phonology and inflections (Moten has only three cases and relies mostly on infixation to mark them), it features many things directly taken from Basque: definite article affix (in Basque a suffix -a, in Moten an infix -e-), overdeclination, periphrastic conjugation (like in Basque, most verbs don't have finite forms and have to rely on auxiliaries for their conjugation. But verbs in Moten don't inflect for person, so it gets a little easier than Basque :)) ), SOV word order with adjectives following their head, inflection of only the last part of a noun phrase (in fact, in Moten this phenomenon is much more important than in Basque: in coordinated lists, only the last member of the list is inflected, but that goes also with verbal inflection :)) ), etc... Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.