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Re: Basque & Katzner's Languages of the World

From:Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>
Date:Thursday, November 15, 2001, 11:12
I was listening to a Basque radio station on the web the other day and was
amazed at how close the *rythm* of Basque is to the rythm of Spanish.  Of
course it was completely unintelligible, but it was a very pleasant aural


So lift the cup of joy and take a big drink.
In spite of it all it's a beautiful world.
-------Suzanne Knutzen

>From: Roger Mills <romilly@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU >Subject: Re: Basque & Katzner's Languages of the World >Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:37:37 -0500 > >Yoon Ha Lee wrote: > >>> . In particular, I wish his phonological descriptions (which are very > >>> anglocentric, perhaps not surprisingly) had used IPA instead of fuzzy > >>> things like "There is both a soft r and a hard r" in Basque. Which > >>> brings > >>> me to my question: for those who know (something about) Basque, what >the > >>> heck is he talking about? Trilled and non-trilled? Trilled vs. > >>> approximant? Meep? > >I just bought R.L.(Larry) Trask's "History of Basque" an incredibly >complete >and as far as I can tell accurate work (a budget-buster, alas). Very >conservative, no wild-blue-yonder stuff, in fact he demolishes most of >everyone's speculations about the language. Apparently there is a tapped >r >(written "r") and a trilled one "rr". The odd thing to me is that they can >contrast word-finally (I suspect it has to do with what happens when a >suffix is added, since it seems they're written "-r" in both cases, unless >I've misread.) They also contrast medially of course, but not initially; >in >fact Basque dislikes initial r: Lat. rege- 'king' > errege. Modern >Spanish >loans excepted. >Fascinating book, TOTALLY fascinating language.
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