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Re: Auxlangs and Orcs' Langs

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 16, 2004, 21:32
In a message dated 2004:03:16 08:24:01 PM, m.poxon@VIRGIN.NET writes:

>I seem to remember somewhere in that essay he likens Esperanto to a creation >of food hygienists rather than cooks, which given his view of such things >tends to demonstrate his dislike of it (sorry, I don't have the quote to >hand) > >Mike > >> > >> Unlikely, I'd say. JRRT liked Esperanto, thought the idea of an IAL >> a good one (in "English and Welsh" he mentions as one of the external >> virtues of Welsh the fact that it is not "in competition for the ruinous >> honor" of being a global lingua franca), and particularly praised E-o >> over its competition as being "the work of one man, and not a philologist" >> (an artlangish auxlang, in fact).
I think you both are right. IIRC Tolkien was pretty favourable to E-o in his younger days while his colleagues were gaga over Ogden's Basic English, but as he got older his view changed and became highly critical. What I am curious about is did Tolkien know of Otto Jesperson (and Novial) and vice-versa... --- *DiDJiBuNgA!!* Hang Binary,baby...--- Hanuman "Stitch" Zhang, ManglaLanger (mangle + manga + lang) <A HREF="http://www.boheme-magazine.net">=> boheme-magazine.net</A> Language[s] change[s]: vowels shift, phonologies crash-&-burn, grammars leak, morpho-syntactics implode, lexico-semantics mutate, lexicons explode, orthographies reform, typographies blip-&-beep, slang flashes, stylistics warp... linguistic (R)evolutions mark each-&-every quantum leap... ...languages are "naturally evolved wild systems... So language does not impose order on a chaotic universe, but reflects its own wildness back." - Gary Snyder "Some Languages Are Crushed to Powder but Rise Again as New Ones" - a chapter on pidgins & creoles, John McWhorter, _The Power of Babel: A Natural History of Language_ = ¡ gw'araa legooset caacaa ! ¡ reez'arvaa. saalvaa. reecue. scoopaa-goomee en reezijcloo ! = [Fight Linguistic Waste! Save, Salvage, Recover, Scavenge and Recycle!]

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