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Re: Nimrina phonology

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Friday, August 18, 2006, 1:06
Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:
> Nice. Do /K/ ~ /l/ also pattern as a voiceless-voiced pair?
Currently, yes: ríva "yellow" + hlázi "tea" = rívalázi "green tea".
> Are all /h/s from *f? If not /h/ may alternate with zero in > some cases!
I've considered the possibility that not all /h/'s are from an earlier /f/; perhaps there was a /x/ : /G/ contrast and the /G/'s dropped out. Loss of /G/ could also account for some of the long vowels and diphthongs. I have a feeling that if I want a naturalistic phonology I'm going to have to go into the history to some extent.
>> Spelling is more or less phonemic, with some complications; for >> instance, /z`/ is "r" and /r/ is "rr", so long /z`:/ is written "zr" >> to avoid confusion with /r/. > > Somehow _rz_ for /z`z`/ would seem more right to me, > probably because Swedish retroflexes represent /r/+dental, > and because _rz_ is one of the spellings of Polish /z`/, > but perhaps /rz/ is a possible cluster while **/zr/ isn't?
Either spelling would work, but /rz/ I'm thinking would assimilate to /zz/. Of course, progressive assimilation is always a possibility, but if assimilation is regressive, I can let "rz" represent an original /rz/ which in the current language is pronounced /z:/.
> BTW did you know that _nimir/nimri/nimrim_ is the word > for 'Elf/Elves' in Tolkien's Adûnaic language?
I don't know if I've seen anything about Adûnaic. Was this in one of the "History of Middle-Earth" volumes? It's possible I may have seen this long ago, but I didn't have anything particular in mind when I came up with the name Nimrína.

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Benct Philip Jonsson <bpjonsson@...>