Re: THEORY: Ergativity and polypersonalism
From: | Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...> |
Date: | Sunday, January 23, 2005, 7:44 |
Isaac wrote:
> Persuasive. In any case, I know too little Georgian to start fighting. I
> merely remember that most our professors in the Univeristy mentioned
> Georgian as a good example of ergative lang. Now I see it was a
> misunderstanding, or just an obsolete view.
Well, a few decades ago, it was common to call all sorts of foreign
looking systems of grammatical relations 'ergative', basically
on the grounds that all languages had either a nom/acc or an erg/abs
alignment. We now recognize that the situation is considerably more
complicated than that, so we call them by different names.
I was just looking at one site right now, and it repeated this
error. So it seems to still be floating around.
> Ok. Isn't Basque typically
> ergative? I took a half year course of it 14 years ago :) - will it help?
and Chris responded to this with:
> Yep. :) Basque is very strongly morphologically ergative language. :)
> About the closest you get to accusative behavoir is a progressive
> construction using "ari", where both arguments are marked as absolutive
> and the verb only agrees with the agent, but other than that peripheral
> example, pretty much everything is ergative.
I am not an expert on Basque, but I am given to understand that there
are some split-S characteristics lurking around in it. Something about
light verbs, IIRC.
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