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Re: THEORY: Ergativity and polypersonalism

From:# 1 <salut_vous_autre@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 23:20
> > >Chechen is ergative and has verbal desinences, yet it is not >polypersonnal. > > >On the other hand a features of French (definitely accusative) can be > > >considered polypersonnal. > > > > Wich feature are you talking about? > > > > French verbs never agrees with object or agent, only with the subject in > > person and number: it is not polypersonnal at all... > >Oh, yes, especially spoken French can be analysed like that very well. >Search the archives especially for Christoph's remarks (usually >on polysynthesis in French). I think this is about sentences like > > Moi j'l'aime bien ce film. > -------- > ^ > \_ verb with subject & object agreement >
That is not the same thing that's a contraction of 2 pronouns Moi, je l'aime bien ce film je = 1st person l' = 3rd person in front of a word beginning by a vowel if it's a consonant it will be "le" or "la" (usually contracted in l' when speaking) In french, a ' means that these are separate words _excepted_ in the word "aujourd'hui" (today) wich is an old contraction and pasting of Old French and/or Vulgar Latin words you can't say that, because it is contracted and that we usually represent a missing letter by a ', that it is a desinence if so you have to say that saying "we" in "we're happy" is a desinence or that the "s" in "my dad's here" is a locative particle but these are only contractions they are not part of the word they are near of

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Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>French and polypersonalism (was: THEORY: Ergativity and polypersonalism)