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Re: word derivation in sabyuka (some principles)

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Monday, July 15, 2002, 17:10
Dan Sulani scripsit:

> Now, there may be langs where there is a _phoneme_ /s/, one of whose > allophones includes a palatal sibilant, but I don't think one can call the > whole phoneme "palatal" (and IMHO, if the phoneme did not include > any pre-palatal variations, it would be better described as /S/, no? )
Well, Finnish /s/ is pretty eshy, but it's still called /s/ usually, for historical/orthographical/typographical reasons. After all, phonemic notation is inherently language-specific, and habit and only convenience stops us from saying that the Spanish "b", "d", "g" are /<beta>/, /<edh>/, /<gamma>/ (which after all represent the more common allophones) rather than /b/, /d/, /g/. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan <jcowan@...> You tollerday donsk? N. You tolkatiff scowegian? Nn. You spigotty anglease? Nnn. You phonio saxo? Nnnn. Clear all so! `Tis a Jute.... (Finnegans Wake 16.5)

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