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Re: Senyecan ortho. breakthrough

From:Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>
Date:Sunday, October 24, 2004, 11:22
From: "caeruleancentaur"

> Þ in place of th: ósÞon = bone.
Congrats and welcome to the list (I missed the your debut on account of being NOMAIL for so long). I better point something out, and people miss this a lot so don't feel bad -- the small thorn is þ (Alt+0254 in Windows); the capital thorn is Þ (Alt+0222). You used the capital when you probably wanted small.
> And the following punctuation marks: « » ¿ ¡ The > first two I > use for quotations marks. Borrowed that from Greek.
And French, German and numerous other languages. I do that for Tech in both Latin and Arabic script. The inverted punctuation marks though... are they used as in Spanish, or do they have a spcial function? In my conlang, the convention isn't exactly like Spanish; phrases can end only in an upright question or exclamation mark but not begin wth an inverted one, and that reflects normal usage. When inverted mark opens a phrase (which can be a single word) and an upright one closes, emphasis is implied. For question marks, there is a deal of doubt about something; for exclamation marks, sarcasm. Examples: ¿The capital of Louisiana is New Orelans? (Meaning: I doubt the capital of the US state in question is the stated city. Of course the capital is actually Baton Rouge.) ¡Eating at McDonalds every day is a healthy habit! (You get the picture.) This is not standard English usage, but it should be I mean, this is what I do for Tech. Whenever Tech finally exists, that is.
> In doing the research, I discovered a site on an Indian language in > Mexico. Whoever did the investigation has used ö to indication > labialization of consonants. "How neat!" thought I. It adds a touch > of that exoticness (exoticity?) that we conlangers seem to love. By > analogy I will use ï to indicate palatalization. cöásïa = > to weave a > basket.
I use the degree sign in Tech: k°lep (the e is inverted) [k_wl@p] "he was behaving like a dog". So that way, I can labialize consonants whether or not they're followed by a vowel. Palatization is indicated by the acute accent.
> I am still looking for the following 3 graphemes: s with an acute > accent, z with an acute accent, & gamma.
If you use Windows, you go Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map. If you use Linux or Macintosh, there has to be some sort of Unicode character input thingie, but I have no idea what or how. You could also use S and Z with carons since you can input those with Alt+0xxx too! S-caron = Alt+0138 Z-caron = Alt+0142 s-caron = Alt+0154 z-caron = Alt+0158 Can't use that method to plug in gamma though. Unless you just use G/g and change the font to Symbol for just that letter (which I HATE doing!) I use two Greek letters in Tech: gamma (voiced uvular stop/fricative), and lambda (voiceless laterally-released alveolar affricate/fricative). I might use theta and delta for the interdental fricatives when borrowed from Arabic.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>