Re: Order of cases
From: | Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...> |
Date: | Friday, October 1, 2004, 14:15 |
From: Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:49:31 +0200, Philip Newton
> > When I saw a book in English for English people learning German, I
> > remember being surprised that it had NOM-ACC-(don't remember the order
> > of the other two).
>
> The order I learned was Nom, Acc, Dat, Gen, and it's the order I recite
> mentally to this day. I have no idea why that order was chosen.
This is how I learned it as well, for Latin and German. Incidentally,
in Georgian, it's:
Nominative
Ergative (or, homonymously, Narrative)
Dative
Genitive
Instrumental
Adverbial
Meskwaki is another interesting example. There, you'd have:
Vocative
Locative
..since all other relations are shown on the head verb!
> > ObConlang: if your conlang uses IE-oid cases, in which order do you
> > typically list them?
In Phaleran: In C'ali:
(Nominative, in pronouns) Agentive
(Absolutive, in pronouns) Patientive
Ergative Genitive/Possessive
Absolutive
Dative
Benefactive
Instrumental
Durative
Abessive
(C'ali is more head-marking than Phaleran is, so it is perhaps
not surprising that it has fewer cases.)
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