Re: Order of cases
From: | Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...> |
Date: | Friday, October 1, 2004, 19:09 |
> On Thursday, September 30, 2004, at 11:00 ,
> Christian Thalmann wrote:
>
> > --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bennett
> <paul-bennett@N...> wrote:
> >
> >> The order I learned was Nom, Acc, Dat, Gen, and
> it's the order I recite
> >> mentally to this day. I have no idea why that
> order was chosen.
> >
> > Same here. Our grammar range in primary school
> was
> > rather limited; I actually learnt a lot of
> grammatical
> > terms in Latin class before they were mentioned in
> > German. =P
> >
> > Our Latin order was NOM, ACC, DAT, ABL, GEN, which
> is
> > an obvious extension of the German one above (ABL
> > being closely related to DAT).
>
As far as I remember, we learned for German:
NOM / ACC / GEN / DAT
and for Latin:
NOM / VOC / ACC / GEN / DAT / ABL
For Greek, I checked in my grammar, because I was not
sure any more, but it happens to be the same:
NOM / VOC / ACC / GEN / DAT
For Russian, a Russian grammar of mine gives:
NOM / GEN / DAT / ACC / INSTR / PREP
but a French tutorial gives:
NOM / ACC / GEN / PREP / DAT / INSTR
There is a famous song from Jacques Brel which reminds
us the order for Latin. See for ex:
http://www.paroles.net/chansons/21354.htm
Probably some French specificity. (Well, Brel was
Belgian, but no difference).
=====
Philippe Caquant
Ceterum censeo *vi* esse oblitterandum (Me).