Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> > There's no underlying /p/ in "trop" - the sound became utterly silent
> > centuries ago.
>
> I have to disagree here. I, and every French I ever talked to for that
matter,
> pronounce a /p/ of liaison when "trop" is followed by a word beginning
with a
> vowel (except when it begins with the so-called "h aspiré" which merely
prevents
> liaison). Saying /troabO~da~/ instead of /tropabO~da~/ for "trop abondant"
> sounds extremely clumsy to me.
Moi aussi.
> >
> > The final -t in "et" was _never_ pronounced at any period in French. In
> > Vulgar Latin it was already /e/. The final -t is merely an etymology
> > spelling.
> >
> > The final -p in "coup" is never pronounced in modern and has been
> > completely silent for a few centuries now.
> >
>
> I agree for those ones.
Actually, my aunt, who is a bit of a pedant anyway, pronounces "et on a dit"
as /etonadi/. It's so reminiscent of the way English people who naturally
speak an h-dropping dialect say "hatmosphere"
<snip>
> He he... The context is easy for those ones: /s/ when pronounced in
isolation
> (as nouns), /z/ when pronounced in front of a vowel (as adjectives),
silent when
> pronounced in front of a consonnant (as adjectives). I've heard the zero
> pronunciation instead of /s/ though (very dialectical...).
<hangs head in rustic shame> Oh dear. It's the galloyaou I was bought up
with, honest!
Dan
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Ka yokonáu iti báyan: "cas'alyá abhiyo".
Ka tso iti mantabayan: "yama zaláyá
alánekayam la s'alika, cas'alika; ka yama
yavarryekayan arannáam la vácika, labekayam
vácika, ka ali cas'alyeko vanotira."
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Dan Jones