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Re: Two YANCs: Para-British

From:Anthony M. Miles <theophilus88@...>
Date:Monday, June 5, 2000, 21:32
>From: Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>
>_Kench_: > >Veder ouwer, Þouw þ'art an sheavenom, bie behällowd ze name >Þine, coom þet Ritch Þine, bie ze will Þine, houw þ'an þem >sheaven, zame an þer yerþ; þon daylidgen floaf ouwern yiff >ouzom to-day, and vorleet ouzom þor yeldinghen ur houw þ'eck >we vorleet' stom yelderm ouwerm, and ne leed ouz naught in >þo vonding, ac bevry ouz vram þem voken. Vorþy Þine iz þet >Kengdom, þet weeld, and þet woaldor, þes Veders, þes Zoons, >and þets Höllin Varfs, nouw, and vor eever, and in eechoden >þor eechoden. Amen. > > >_Oidingese_ (g = [dZ]): > >Noster Pars, el sùver lis cheels, peert se sainticker el Tus >nooms, venner el Tus Rimes, et esser la Ta völlonts, sit >sùver lo cheel, juth sùver la tar; lun noster pane jurnal >pret dees nees wy, et remetes nees las nosters dets sit et >nouw remetens lis nosters dettors, et noul encundure nous en >lan tentishon, seth pret relìvers nous del mällin. Quay >Touws est el Rimes, et la pousts, et la gloyer, lis Par, lis >File, et lis Spirit Saint, nunc, et semper, et en yeefs lur >yeefer. Amen. > > * * * > >Para-British is a provisional name for a group of conlangs I’ve been >developing lately. They are mainly inspired by English. > >More precisely, the relations between them and English resemble those >between Brithenig and Welsh. Para-British langs imitate the phonetic >evolution of English from Late Middle English period to modern time, >but have a different origin. They descend from Latin, Old Norse, and >some deviant dialects of Old English. > >Practically same as in English are their phonetic systems (slightly >idealized, and sometimes allowing for sound combinations that could >not have emerged in English) and orthographies (with a few >disambiguating conventions added). > >Kench descends from the Kentish dialect of Old English, and Oidingese >represents the Romance Para-British langs. The development is supposed >to be quite naturalistic. As with the rest of Para-British, the >lexification problem is settled, in principle, once and forever: >lexemes are either derived regularly from the words of the respective >ancestral language or borrowed from the neighbors and/or classical >tongues (the latter may include Middle Irish, but I am not sure yet; >other suggestions are welcome). In my next posting I plan to outline >the noun morphology of Kench (five cases, three genders, three >articles...). > >The world where Para-British langs are spoken is not too different >from ours, since all of its flora, fauna, and human inhabitants >penetrated *there* from *here* in different times. > >Initially, Para-British tongues appeared as purely 'onomastic' langs >for some abandoned non-conlanging project. But very soon they >began to develop in their own way - not too rare a phenonenon ;) > >To make my langs really different from English and from each other, >I'll probably need more lexification sources. Besides Middle Irish, >I thought of a more pronounced Greek influence, and of attributing the >role of classical tongues to languages like Coptic and older varieties >of Welsh. As I already mentioned, feedback is especially welcome in >this respect. > >I look forward to hearing from you all, > > >Basilius
If this is meant to be an alternate timeline, perhaps there was an effort by the Orthodox church to civilise the 'Franks' (Western Europeans), thus leading to greater influence of Greek. OR Archbishop Theodore, one of the first archbishops of Canterbury, could have established a lasting school of Greek scholars, instead of his short-lived influence, although that might be too early for this linguistic scenario. OR The Ottonian Imperial Dynasty brought in more Greek influence through his wife Theophano than happened in OTL. I can't think how Coptic would reach Britain, though. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com