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Re: Active, Was: Help with grammar terms

From:dirk elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
Date:Thursday, January 20, 2000, 17:08
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, andrew wrote:

> Am 01/19 09:37 Vasiliy Chernov yscrifef: > > > Vokhoman... where can I learn more about it? > > > At the moment only on this list or conculture as I haven't set up a page > for it. I think I'm going to have to start doing more work on it. What > started off as a project to design a possible conreligion is turning > into a project on the relationship of a religion within a culture. Its > lexicon comes from the American Heritage Dictionary, its grammar is > based on a recent Indo-European grammar translated from Dutch (I forget > the author and title but it has been referred to on this list > previously), and its culture is based on _Indo-European and the > Indo-Europeans_.
Hmmm. Seems I've been scooped! I also have a PIE conlang, Shemspreg, which uses many of the same sources (the Dutch grammar must be the one by Robert Beeke; it's a very nice summary, IMO). Shemspreg actually started out life as a mock-IAL, but quickly wandered away from an "IAL esthetic" to a (more-or-less) fully fledged language complete with grammatical idiosyncracies. And if I ever get a stretch of time away from class obligations, it will appear on the web.
> On top of that it has some really fun sandhi stolen > from Sanskrit. They don't exist in this history but seem to exist in a > kingdom in the equivalent of Central Asia in a fantasy world I explored > some years ago. I don't know if they will thank me for that - looks > very dry and cold, but it has to do with a parallel interest in the > story of Prester John. Because of this connection they use Aramaic for > the basis of their script.
I really like this, especially using Aramaic as the script. I roughed out a Greek-derived script for Shemspreg, but the language doesn't have a fictional setting yet since it was originally intended as an IAL. I guess I'd better get on the stick and put one together.
> Now I shall go and sit down and try and write up some verb paradigms > which I've been meaning to do. Enough rambling for now, I'll come back > and ramble later!
I can do that for a common Shemspreg verb: nem- 'take' nemes 'takes, is taking' enmi 'was taking' nenmi 'took' nement 'taking' nenment 'taken' There are no separate person/number inflections. Tense is distinguished by stem gradation* as well as suffixation: full grade (nem-) and the suffix _-es_ mark present tense, and reduced grade (-nm-) with the suffix _-i_ marks past tense. Aspect (perfective/imperfective) is only distinquished in the past tense; the prefix _e-_ marks the imperfective, and partial reduplication* (in this case _ne-_) marks perfective aspect. The participle ending _-ent_ is the same for both the present and the past participles; the present participle is built on the present stem, and the past participle is built on the perfective stem (reduplicated reduced grade). Dirk [*] See my earlier post on morphological processes. -- Dirk Elzinga dirk.elzinga@m.cc.utah.edu