Re: Llirine: introduction and phonology

On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 12:55:04PM -0500, Nik Taylor wrote:
> Yes, that would work.  Presumably they'd borrow stops as nasals and
> labials as dentals.  So they'd say /Noln/ for "gold", for example, or
> /noj/ for "boy".  [hMn@\n] for "human" :-)
That makes sense. Conculture-wise, Llirine is a descendent of Sherall,
which was created mainly from Esperanto and English, but Llirine has had
significant borrowing directly from modern (future) English, old
(Shakespearan to current) English, Portugese, Esperanto, and Swahilli.
(Looks likes it's time for me to get more language books.)

> >  =\ -   p   - p (I don't know if I chose the right IPA, but it's a click)
>
> Is that a bilabial click?  If they can't make /p/, they shouldn't be
> able to make that either.
The IPA is a palatoalveolar click. I might describe it as a retroflex
click - I don't know if they're the same, or there's no IPA symbol for
it, or what.

> > Syllables are V, CV or CV{ll,n,n^,p}.
>
> No V{ll,n,n^,p}?
Okay, it would make sense to have V{ll,n,n^,p}.

> > words tend to be medium length (6-8 characters)
>
> So, around two or three syllables?
Basically like English, but with less of a tendency to form words by
sticking other words together. It has fewer words like palatoalveloar,
or topography.

> > http://dvdeug.dhis.org/llirine.html has this information with actual
> > IPA, if that helps anyone.
>
> I just see boxes for a lot of the IPA.  :-(
Sorry. It took a little playing around on my side for me to see it
correctly, too. The Thyromanes font, combined with IE6 (5?) or Netscape
6 gets it right. (Or for Unix geeks, lynx in a Unicode XTerm with an X4
fixed font works wonderfully.)

> > "I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each
> > one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less."
> > - "Disciple", Stuart Davis
>
> What's this about?
Just a quote I picked up somewhere from someone else's sig collection,
that happened to appeal to me.

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