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Re: nom/accu pronouns erg/abs everything else

From:Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...>
Date:Monday, May 14, 2007, 15:22
On 14/05/07, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> On 5/14/07, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote: > > Yup. There are five possible ways of dividing (Subject, Agent, > > Patient) into subsets: > > Note that these five categories are not sufficient to categorize all > entire languages. For example, the so-called "Split S" languages > appear to be accusative in some utterances and ergative in others, > depending on additional criteria not captured in the S vs A vs P > distinction. >
Yep. For our purposes, they should probably be lumped in with fluid-S; the distinction between the two being, that in split-S, a verb is lexically either accusative or ergative (like imperfective and perfective verbs in Russian), whereas in fluid-S, the same lexical verb is accusative or ergative by context. An example from an otherwise un-ergative language would be Spanish, where "caigo" means "I jump", but "me caigo" (morphologically reflexive) means "I fall". Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. - Richard Phillips Feynman http://latedeveloper.org.uk