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Re: How to represent long affricates? (was: Phonetic scripts and diphthongs ...)

From:J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 7:53
Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:
> The sound actually *is* [d:z\],
I'd rather describe it as [d_}:dz\)], since the lengthening occurs before the plosion, as Dirk Elzinga's pointed out. However, in terms of IPA, the lengthening of stops can't be adequately described. I don't like the solution of writing two stop signs either, since it suggests that there'd be two plosions.
> While we're at it Italian _accia_ is ['at:s\a], > while [t:s] and [d:z] don't exist (anymore): spellings like _mezzo_ > are purely conventional.
As I perceive them, these sounds are long even though their length isn't distinctive, same as <gn, gl>. g_0ry@_^s: j. 'mach' wust