Re: How to represent long affricates? (was: Phonetic scripts and diphthongs ...)
|From:||J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 7:53|
Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:
> The sound actually *is* [d:z\],
I'd rather describe it as [d_}:dz\)], since the lengthening occurs before
the plosion, as Dirk Elzinga's pointed out. However, in terms of IPA, the
lengthening of stops can't be adequately described. I don't like the
solution of writing two stop signs either, since it suggests that there'd
be two plosions.
> While we're at it Italian _accia_ is ['at:s\a],
> while [t:s] and [d:z] don't exist (anymore): spellings like _mezzo_
> are purely conventional.
As I perceive them, these sounds are long even though their length isn't
distinctive, same as <gn, gl>.
j. 'mach' wust