Re: How to represent long affricates? (was: Phonetic scripts and diphthongs ...)

Hey.

In my dissertation on Goshute consonant phonology
(http://roa.rutgers.edu/searchlist.php3?
num=7&detail=&pointer=0&search=elzinga&ids=431), I represented all long
affricates with a doubled stop consonant symbol followed by a
homorganic fricative symbol; i.e., [ttT, tts, ttS]. I did this because
it is the stop closure which is lengthened, not the affricate as a
whole.

Dirk

On Jul 19, 2004, at 4:32 AM, Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:

> Muke Tever wrote:
>
>> Italian SAMPA[1] uses /ddZ/ etc.
>>
>> It seems to be more common in any case for geminate consonants (as
>> opposed
>> to long vowels) to be spelt double instead of using the length mark.
>> [I
>> suppose if you had good typesetting with a /d_Z/ ligature you could
>> get
>> away with something like /d_Z:/ though.]
>
> Why?  The sound actually *is* [d:z\], though on second thought I guess
> /dZdZ/ would be an acceptable though misleading *phonological*
> representation.  While we're at it Italian _accia_ is ['at:s\a],
> while [t:s] and [d:z] don't exist (anymore): spellings like _mezzo_
> are purely conventional.
>
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