Re: Anthroponymy (was Re: Re: Laadan)

Isaac A. Penzev  <isaacp@...> 2002.12.12. 12:44:44 +2h-kor írta:

> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > Hungarians put the family name first?
> Yep.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Quoting "Personal Naming Systems in Various Ethnic Groups / Sistemy
> lichnykh imyon u narodov mira" Moscow, 1989; p.90:
>
> "As it is known, all European anthroponymic systems suppose personal
> name precede family name. The only exception is Hungarian anthroponymy
> with its reversee order. It is easily explained by the fact that in
> the Hungarian language adjectives _always_ precede nouns they modify,
> and all Hungarian family names are treated as adjectives"
Mwa Longoyapan gebusa tawiy (she tentie balterwenna).
Japanese also has that order (tho' I don't know the reason)..

> Plus, an interesting observation (p.93):
> "One more specific feature: when a woman gets married, she receives
> her husband's personal and family name instead of her own names. To
> distinguish the gender, they add suffix -ne, that may be added both to
> family name (Veresne) and to full name (Veres Peterne). This custom
> appeared in Hungary in late 16th century."
> I'd like to know if it is true. Mau, Sudar Balazs, Ferko - any
> comments?
Myáni, ú qembili maya. Mí tedwiad ú. Yami, tedui renerye ud.
Yeah, that is true. But not a must-be. Myself, I won't change my name.

> <<<Those non-Indo-European Europeans are always such a nice source of
> originality :))) >>>
> They surely are.
Wie nyámi.
We surely are. :)

-- Mau
mwa taqe ilqanna perweq. - who has pride about her nation.

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